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Possible Wayfarer port - pledges

Last updated on 4 months ago
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Amiwell79Distro Maintainer
Posted 4 months ago
unfortunately I have to scale down my offer 200 euro

thank you all
serk118ukserk118ukSoftware Dev
Posted 4 months ago
Hi sorry late for the party , just got back from haliday. I am in with £100 and another £100 later on..
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ASiegelNewbie
Posted 4 months ago
@ntromans

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Ouch, a $10000+ bounty is pretty steep.

For perspective, the Odyssey bounty project raised $7,657 within a few short weeks. According to online inflation calculators, this sum would equal $10,000 today.

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Is it worth putting the request for pledges on somewhere like Amigaword to see if there's any interest from a wider audience? Even then It's unfortunately hard to see that much being raised.

I think it is worth considering who outside of the core AROS x86/x64 user base would benefit.

There has been a multi-year attempt to port the version of the Webkit engine used by Wayfarer to another operating system that is technologically similar to AROS and runs on PowerPC hardware. I believe the original plan was to port the browser engine first and then build a new custom web browser on top from scratch.

To the best of my knowledge, this project has not produced any tangible results for end users just yet.

I think it is fair to assume that the involved developers would get a major head start if they had access to the source code of an AROS port of the entire Wayfarer web browser and all of its required dependencies.

As a reminder, here is a the description of the Odyssey bounty project:

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The aim of this project is to license a current version of the full-featured Odyssey Web Browser and share it under an open source license so it can be ported to AmigaOS and AROS.



In addition, there is 68k-compatible hardware out there that is sometimes already being shipped with some version of AROS. As long as these devices include at least 512 MB of memory, running Wayfarer in some capacity is at least somewhat feasible. Getting Wayfarer ported to AROS on x86/64 would make make it a lot more likely that a modern web browser could be brought to these other platforms running AROS.


Last but not least, it is interesting to note that all funding efforts that targeted current or former owners of Commodore systems and managed to raise 5 or even 6-figure sums involved some physical component that could be obtained by paying a certain minimum amount of money. Given the 'high' funding goal for the project, some may find the following to be counter-intuitive: However, raising the total by a few percentage points in order produce a limited edition "Wayfarer" box set for all donors who donate at least, say, ~$105 may add appeal to the many who would appreciate a memento of their contribution and have a general interest in collecting physical items that are connected to their computer hobbies,

Anyway, just some food for though.
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Amiwell79Distro Maintainer
Posted 4 months ago
I was thinking of donating a certain amount but I wouldn't be able to get to 10000 euro, let's see how it turns out and anyway I have to wait a few weeks because I have to do some accounts concerning my finances

thank you all
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OlafSchMember
Posted 4 months ago
I am not surprised. As far as I read opening wayfarer code alone would require 5000 Dollar at least. And that code has to be adapted 'So I am not surprised about the sum really. But even freeing magellan code, a product that was interesting for all platforms, was far below. 10.000 dollar only on aros are unrealistic. I personally would be more interested to support Deadwood about the merge with linux and getting a linux desktop there, be it scalos or magellan. That would offer a modern platform with modern software..

There were discussions about that on OS4 sites too but people dropped the idea because the money would be only for the sources of the morphos version, to get it working it would need additionally work. Not to talk about updating it.

In my view the bounty would be needed to be split in two parts, opening wayfarer code and a second bounty about adapting and updating it. Only together with other communities there might be a chance to collect the money,.

But if I read the total sum, even the second bounty would be too much for the relative small aros community. It is currently only interesting to X86 users using it native on a PC.

As I wrote having a linux based system would be more promising. There I would even donate money if needed.
Edited by OlafSch on 29-07-2024 05:01, 4 months ago
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deadwoodAROS Dev
Posted 4 months ago

ntromans wrote:

@ntromans Is it worth putting the request for pledges on somewhere like Amigaword to see if there's any interest from a wider audience?


In my opinion, people who have genuine interest in AROS (and would actually do payments matching their pledges) are already on arosworld.org.
TemplarioTemplarioJunior Member
Posted 4 months ago

ntromans wrote:

@ntromans -

deadwood wrote:

@deadwood - Thanks everyone who made a pledge - this is appreciated. As it stands now the pledge sums up to between $1100 and $1900. This is unfortunatelly around 10% - 15% of required money. With this, the preparation development work is put on hold until more sponsors can be found or a developer steps in to do part of the work which would then lower total cost.


Ouch, a $10000+ bounty is pretty steep. Is it worth putting the request for pledges on somewhere like Amigaword to see if there's any interest from a wider audience? Even then It's unfortunately hard to see that much being raised.

Cheers,
Nigel.

In Amigatroll difficult and the current Amiga fans only spend their money in new hardware, other case IS if there is a big fan thet put 5000 or more money as in the case if MorphOS with the 5000 euros that put a fan for make the graphic drivers. But currently the fans don't belive in the bounty for the before cases, for example the Timberwolf in AmigaOS4 that had more of 7000 euros and browser where is?
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ntromansMember
Posted 4 months ago

deadwood wrote:

@deadwood - Thanks everyone who made a pledge - this is appreciated. As it stands now the pledge sums up to between $1100 and $1900. This is unfortunatelly around 10% - 15% of required money. With this, the preparation development work is put on hold until more sponsors can be found or a developer steps in to do part of the work which would then lower total cost.


Ouch, a $10000+ bounty is pretty steep. Is it worth putting the request for pledges on somewhere like Amigaword to see if there's any interest from a wider audience? Even then It's unfortunately hard to see that much being raised.

Cheers,
Nigel.
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Amiwell79Distro Maintainer
Posted 4 months ago
maybe there will be some good news from me stay tunedSmile
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Amiwell79Distro Maintainer
Posted 4 months ago
Deadwood to reach 100% how much money is missing
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Amiwell79Distro Maintainer
Posted 4 months ago
ok deadwood
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deadwoodAROS Dev
Posted 4 months ago
Thanks everyone who made a pledge - this is appreciated. As it stands now the pledge sums up to between $1100 and $1900. This is unfortunatelly around 10% - 15% of required money. With this, the preparation development work is put on hold until more sponsors can be found or a developer steps in to do part of the work which would then lower total cost.
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Amiwell79Distro Maintainer
Posted 4 months ago
for me it's not just a hobby I only use aros at the moment and have no interest in other OS and what they may offer
TemplarioTemplarioJunior Member
Posted 4 months ago

Amiwell79 wrote:

@Amiwell79 - Templario I don't know if MorphOS users have translations into other languages maybe yes

Yes, there are several translations, only is to avoid misunderstandings, with the translators from MorphOS, because sometimes the people see this hobby of a different way....
AMIGASYSTEMAMIGASYSTEMDistro Maintainer
Posted 4 months ago
Wayfarer uses catalogues and can be localised in any language, at the moment there are already Italian, German, Spanish, French, Polish, Swedish, Finnish and Turkish catalogues.
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Amiwell79Distro Maintainer
Posted 4 months ago
Templario I don't know if MorphOS users have translations into other languages maybe yes
TemplarioTemplarioJunior Member
Posted 4 months ago
I have a question about why, have you asked if the Wayfarer translators agree with their translations appearing in the port?
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Amiwell79Distro Maintainer
Posted 4 months ago
excellent two-year update this is importantLike
amigamiaamigamiaAdmin
Posted 4 months ago
$100
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ntromansMember
Posted 4 months ago
If needed I could match 200 euros.

Cheers,
Nigel.
Edited by ntromans on 17-07-2024 07:24, 4 months ago
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